Showing posts with label Locomotive Graveyard. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Locomotive Graveyard. Show all posts

08 July 2010

Jan Kempdorp - 93 Ammo Depot

All the photos in this entry are kind courtesy of Jacque & John Wepener.

WHY ARE SOME OLD SAR LOCOMOTIVES STORED AT 93 Ammo Depot, Jan Kempdorp?

ANSWER: On 16 October 2007 Robert wrote to the sar-L Yahoo group:

Dear All,

The reason there is a number of SAR steam locos staged at Jan Kempdorp, is that in the 1990's, following the closure to steam of Millsite (as a result of the cessation of the hire contract to Rustenburg and the move of the centre of THF operations to Cape Town/Voorbaai), it became apparent that security would be a problem at Millsite (don't we know it). The late Alan Clarke set out to move as much as he could to Jan Kempdorp, where it would be kept secure from the scrap thieves. Unfortunately, upon his untimely death in a road traffic collision, all impetus was lost and only the 15 or so locos made it. The remainder, as we know, were left vulnerable at Millsite.

Robert.

In June 2010 Jacque & John Wepener reported as follows to the sar-L group on Yahoo:

Now the actual reason for our trip was to go and have look at the stored steam locomotives at 93 Ammo Depot.


These locomotives are staged INSIDE a SADF army base and access is not easy. After quite some time and explaining and also having the right people at the gates and with the right attitude, on both sides, we were allowed to be escorted into the depot with very, very special permission.


Here we found the following locos 3528, 2742, 3498, 2678, 3409, 2689, 2680, 3130, 3438, 3453, 34?? either 3439 or 3462.


We traveled right through the base and checked all the sidings and these were the only locos we found.


If there are some missing (as in John Middleton's book) then maybe they are hidden away somewhere else.


They do not look too good, rust and peeling paint all around.


The cabs have had everything removed, the seats are gone.


Bees have moved into almost all of the steam cylinders and one must tread carefully.


Some smoke boxes are open, some arms are missing, a dome or two are lying on the ground. Axle boxes have been opened.


Most of the exterior piping and the works remain intact.


White paint on the locos clearly state "DO NOT STRIP / MOENIE STRIP NIE". A bit too late ??


The painted numbers on the locos are peeling and can't be identified.


The tenders on some of the 25NC's carry different numbers as the locos.

There is a yellow shunting diesel and a light blue shunting diesel as well.

The staff tell us they still receive a train every now and then. Mostly by road though. These locos basically are in the state of most stored locos around the country that have now been cut up, unfortunately.

Thanks to the friendly guys at 93 Ammo depot Jan Kempdorp.

Greetings.
J & J.

14 June 2010

Paddock - KZN, Locomotive Graveyard (former ACR engines)

Alfred County Railway (ACR) is an abandoned narrow gauge railway in South Africa, which ran from the southern transport hub of Port Shepstone on the Indian Ocean, via Izotsha and Paddock for 122 kilometres (76 mi) to Harding, KwaZulu-Natal.

You may want to look up the often very confusing! history of the ACR here on Wikipedia.

ACR was finally shut down in 2008 because extensive flood damage to many of the railways bridges along the Hibiscus Coast put these beyond economic repair, and most of the Izotsha rail bridge was washed away.

Thanks to Norman Swart for the following set of pictures taken at Paddock on 5th June 2010.


At the small town of Paddock some distance inland from Port Shepstone, a number of forgotten ex-SAR NGG16 Garratts may be found. These rusty engines may be found to the north of and just outside Paddock at "Claasen's Siding" next to an old derelict saw mill.


In this, and other pictures, a dome of a hidden locomotive with blue liivery is visible - a photo of the engine from the other side was not possible.

ACR apparently had about 17 NG loco's based at Port Shepstone, and some of these were stored at Paddock. The engines currently at Paddock may have been kept as spares for the few actual running engines. A few of the ACR engines were on loan from Transnet Heritage Foundation, (THF) the others were owned by ACR.


This engine has the painted number "142", which then makes it a Garratt SAR class NGG16 Narrow Gauge (2ft width) SAR engine no NG142, which was built in 1958 by Beyer, Peacock & Co Ltd, of Manchester, England as their works no 7867.


These Garratt locomotives are in a very bad state of deterioration and will need hard work to restore - the term "locomotive graveyard" seems fit at the moment.


Norman Swart has discovered this sad scene on the 5th June 2010.


This locomotive appears to have the painted number "126", and is therefore likely to be NG126 = BP 7427/50


Norman said that because of the thick bush it was nearly impossible to photograph all of the locomotives.



Norman thought that there are about 5 or 6 engines. These are all ex-SAR class NGG16's.




Map 1 : Google Earth Aerial view of the Paddock area.


Map 2: Google Earth View indicating position of locomotives next to derelict saw mill siding named "Claasen's Siding". This view is from 2005; by 2010 most of the saw mill's roof had been demolished - evidence visible in locomotive photos above ...


The Banana Express in better days - photo by hinchliff uploaded to Panoramio.

You may find some references on the web to Alfred County Railway:

The Banana Express photo page on sa-transport:
http://www.sa-transport.co.za/trains/narrow-gauge/banana_express/be.html

Newspaper mention:
http://www.themercury.co.za/index.php?fSectionId=283&fArticleId=2108026

Photos of better days:
http://www.sa-transport.co.za/trains/narrow-gauge/ng_info_pictures/steam_garratts_2.html

Below are some YOUTUBE videos showing the Banana Express in action.


BANANA EXPRESS (Alfred County Railway)
Length: 00:03:44, Sept 1999.
Part 1 of 2
COMMENTS: nickblewitt — March 16, 2008 — Part 1 of 2 A trip on the steam hauled 2 ft gauge Banana Express from Port Shepstone to Paddock in South Africa. Part of a trip by Ffestiniog Travel to South Africa in September 1999.


BANANA EXPRESS (Alfred County Railway)
Length: 00:02:09, Sept 1999.
Part 2 of 2
COMMENTS: nickblewitt — March 16, 2008 — Part 2 of 2 - We ride the full length of the Alfred County Railway attached to the rear of a freight train from Harding to Port Shepstone in South Africa. The previous day, we had done the southern part of ther line on the steam hauled Banana Express. Part of a trip by Ffestiniog Travel to South Africa in September 1999.


BANANA EXPRESS (Alfred County Railway)
The last journey?
Length: 00:08:49, Dec 1990.
COMMENTS: A fine video by Alex Bauman.



The following two videos do not run "embedded" and you need to keep on clicking to watch them in a new window directly on YouTube.

BANANA EXPRESS (Alfred County Railway)
Length: 00:10:08, Dec 1990.
COMMENTS: Sowerbylads January 04, 2009SAR class NG15 at work on the now closed Alfred County Railway in Natal, South Africa. Seen in December 1990 hauling the Banana Express tourist train, this short trip ran from Beach station at Port Shepstone to Izotsha station. There was two trips per day on Saturdays at this time. 146 is currently listed as stored on the Brecon Mountain Railway in Wales.


BANANA EXPRESS (Alfred County Railway)
Length: 00:09:13, Aug 1991.
COMMENTS: Sowerbylads — November 16, 2008 — The Alfred County Railway in Natal, South Africa that ran from Port Shepstone on the Natal Coast to Harding in Kwazulu. This now closed line was the source of motive power for the Welsh Highland Railway in the UK. NGG 16 class Garratts 155, 139 and 141 are seen at work on the Wednesdays passenger mixed from Port Shepstone Beach to Paddock and return. Coaches were added as required on the goods trains that ran to / from Harding. Filmed in August 1991 the week after the Brush with Steam railtour, with David Shepherd. I also met the late Dusty Durrant on that tour. Pic of derelict 141 in current Steam Railway.

Sources:
  • Garratt on Wikipedia
  • Alfred County Railway on Wikipedia
  • Claasen’s Siding, Paddock: NGG16's no's 114, 125, 126 (these three are owned by THF), 142, 149 (these two owned by Peter Newton). Claasens Siding is on the north side of the line just east of Paddock, it served a sawmill (now closed) and is owned by a local farmer Derek Claasen who maintains security around the locos.

22 September 2009

Queenstown Station - Locomotive Graveyard

On 27 August 2009 we visited the locomotive graveyard at Queenstown station.

The locomotives were guarded by a security firm. It is not a problem to view the locomotives. On arrival just report to the station master at the goods station and you'll be readily given permission.

I could identify at least 19 locomotives from various markings on them. These identifications may not be correct, but do correspond with John Middleton's Railways of Southern Africa Locomotive Guide 2002. Apparently the scrappers had visited the site some time between 2002 and 2009, and a number of engines had been torched. It may be that there are more than 19 locomotives, but these are the ones which I could find on 27 August.
  1. 4AR - 1560
  2. 16CR - 809
  3. 19AR - 693 [the 19A (actually 685 with 693 painted on) is at Queenstown - see Note 1 below]
  4. 14CRB - 1778
  5. 15AR - 1798
  6. 15AR - 1966
  7. 15AR - 2012
  8. 15AR - 2093
  9. 15AR - 2100
  10. 15BR - 1832
  11. 19D - 2666
  12. 19D - 2714
  13. 19D - 3325
  14. 19D - 3337
  15. 19D - 3339
  16. 19D - 3361
  17. 19D - 3364
  18. 19D - 3348
  19. 24 - 3667
NOTE 1. 693 received domeless boiler 8872 at some time prior to 1970 and therefore is a 19AR. May be SAR records never caught up with its status which is why the plate stayed as 19A.

685 carries an original 19A boiler 8411 and therefore is a 19A. The existence of the 19AR plate is I think explained by the following;

These two locos were stored together at De Aar in the 1980's and at some point (may be when their number plates were removed) painted numbers were mistakenly applied in reverse order ie: 685 became 693 and vice versa. I know that the Museum got confused as I remember discussing it with Alan Clark and I wasn't sure until a few years back when I physically checked the boilers on the two locos and realised the Millsite loco has the domeless boiler. In my 2002 book I had the classes right but the locations wrong the domeless 19AR (actually 693 with 685 painted on) is at Millsite and the 19A (actually 685 with 693 painted on) is at Queenstown. Therefore my question would be are the 685/693 plates at George original or re-casts. I think that at one point during the confusion the museum made some plates with 685 as a 19AR and 693 as a 19A.

Hope this helps but its all a bit esoteric !

Cheers
John Middleton

NOTE 2: In 2004 Dayle Coombe took some photos at Queenstown - these are posted here on sa-transport. Some of the engines, which Dayle identified at the site, have been torched since his visit.

Click as usual on any thumbnail to get a larger view.


When you arrive at the site this may be one of your first views. The position of the dismantled coaling stage is clearly visible/








Standing on the earth embankment of the dismantled coaling stage, this might be the scene.


I have assembled this panorama to give an impression of the locomotives present. More locomotives out of view were on the line to the left.


Following are some of the "out of view locomotives on the left".











The following pictures were also taken from the embankment.













Now we follow the long line of locomotives on the other line ..





























This is the last locomotive on the line


HDR image to show detail in the shade.


HDR image to show detail in the shade.